Old Heresies Repurposed for Today’s Delusion

Constance Cumbey Interview

This post contains an audio of an interview with guest speaker Constance Cumbey, noted researcher into the New Age and heresies in the Church.  Here she updates her former research by telling us that she sees the same teachings in the QAnon and related movements today.

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This is no surprise to bible students, since the age-old plan to trick humanity into handing over the government of the planet to a wise and powerful messiah-figure never really varies. Only the terminology changes.

The old Sonship teachings – that the enlightened ones are becoming the Christ, that their god-given task is to renew and replenish the earth, and to cleanse it of all evil – these have been modernised for the twentyfirst century and for a new generation. They are now presented as a noble summons to oppose evil entities like the Cabal, the Elite, the New World Order, all of whom are depraved satan worshippers – so it is said – and who must be eliminated.

New Age, Old Doctrines

The other unsurprising fact is that the New Age Movement, as well as almost every esoteric and mystical group, for decades has been teaching the same things, using different terminology.

There is a convergence between all these groups, with an end goal of unity, purification and enlightenment. Each group appeals to its followers with different language and metaphors, but the overall plan – even in the dominionist churches – is exactly the same.

As Cumbey says in this interview, there is a profound consensus of agreement in the new-age and false religious teachings about the returning messiah, whom all religions await. Eventually, a genuine candidate for this man will come to accomplish their aim of renewing the earth and eliminating their enemies.

They plan to “take the kingdom by force.”

Book Cover: “Destroying the New World Order, and Taking the Kingdom of Christ by Force”

It doesn’t take much thought to realise that the ‘enemies to be overthrown’ will eventually be those who don’t subscribe to the restoration agenda.

At the end, those rebels will be mostly genuine believers who see through the plan, and reject all but the Word of God. This, of course, is exactly what Jesus told his followers, and John foretold in the Book of Revelation.

“They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service”. John 16:2

Shocking Similarities Discovered

Constance Cumbey here describes her shock, after having written a book on the New Age, when she realised the teachings of the “latter rain” type of dominionist churches – now largely swallowed up by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) – were teaching the same things.

She first was made aware of the similarities years ago when she read a report titled “An Evolutionary Basis for the Reappearance of the Christ and His Executives, The Masters of Wisdom”, by Ernest Ramsey who was inspired by Benjamin Creme. You can read a quote from that book at the end of this post.

There Cumbey read about the Sonship movement and discovered that there were strong connections in the thinking between the two.

You Will Be Killed

Cumbey shares how her co-worker turned out to be a disciple of the Sonship teachings, including becoming the Christ Consciousness on earth, and “exterminating” those who would not bow to what they believed was God’s plan for bringing the kingdom to the earth.

Her co-worker left the office after telling Constance Cumbey that “you will be killed, and it will be your own fault for not accepting the deeper truths”.

Listen to the Constance Cumbey Interview HERE:

  • Download “A Planned Deception” and “Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow” here, from my own website, both PDF and KINDLE

What Are All These Strange Heresies?

Information about the Latter Rain/Sonship and Manifested Sons of God can be found on many websites on the Internet, including my own.  START AT THIS INDEX PAGE.

Here is one Internet source. An extended quote from them follows.

What were the Latter-Rain teachings? Despite some variations, there is a general theological undertone that:

  • the Former Rain was Pentecost in Acts to birth a supernatural church
  • the Latter Rain is a second greater Pentecost to birth a supernaturally-powered church before the end of the age.

As a result of unusual biblical interpretations, they also started reading into these three specific Jewish feasts:

  • The Feast of Passover (World Redemption)
  • The Feast of Pentecost (Global Revival)
  • The Feast of Tabernacles (Spirit-filled Corporate Temple)

Examples of this can be seen in the works of two NOLR Apostles George Warnock and Clayton Sonmore. You can read their works here in PDF format:

In NOLR [New Order of the Latter Rain] theology, they are progressing towards the third and final age where “the Latter house shall be greater than the former” (Sonmore, pg 12). This is why we are seeing the NAR militantly taking over churches to establish this “New Order” and global revival. [End of Quote]

Glossary of the Cults

The Latter Rain movement of the late 40’s gave birth to numerous sub-teachings, such as Sonship and MSOG. The Manifested Sons of God was itself divided into two major sects, the Walk, and the Body of Christ.

The Walk
The Walk came out of the Latter Rain Movement under the “apostleship” of John Robert Stevens, who like Paul Cain and others was a William Branham disciple. His was the Church of the Living Word in Redondo Beach, California.

One New Man
This is the belief, based on a misinterpretation of verses in Amos, that enlightened believers are to become the living “tabernacle” “that they may possess the remnant of Edom [Septuagint reads ‘mankind’], and all the Gentiles who are called by My name,’ says the LORD who does this thing” (Amos 9:11-12). The Spirit of God would physically indwell this Temple on earth, and once restoration occurred, it would cause a great worldwide revival.

A specific doctrine of the New Order of the Latter Rain (NOLR), the Charismatic Renewal Movement (CRM) and New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) cults. These cults are attempting to manifest individual believers as ‘little gods’ (New Breed) and the corporate church as a global ‘living deity’ (One New Man).

The Corporate Christ
The belief, similar to the One New Man teaching, that believers are corporately the Son of God, with divine power to achieve his will and reign in the earth.

Manifested Sons of God
The MSOG doctrine has an eschatology of Dominionism [also known as Kingdom-Now theology] through the perfecting of the saints under the authority of their latter-day prophets and apostles. They believe in the perfection of the saints, immortalization, and the attainment of becoming Christ on earth. [Corporate Christ, see above]. They mostly deny a rapture in the classic sense. Some replace it with individual raptures, a collective transformation to immortality on earth, or none at all.

This quote is representative of the teaching: “the doctrine of the Rapture was a great and effective ruse of the enemy to implant in the Church a retreat mentality … already this yoke has been cast off by the majority in the advancing church, and it will soon be cast off by all.” (Rick Joyner, THE HARVEST 1989 /1990)

Research Sources

The Revealing Convergence, as exposed in the book by Ernest Ramsey. [Quote begins]

In her book, “A Planned Deception: The Staging of a New Age ‘Messiah'” (1985), Christian writer Constance Cumbey writes,

“Rev. Ernest Ramsey, an associate pastor at Unity’s Kansas City’s Founder’s Church, Unity on the Plaza, is an enthusiastic follower of the Alice Bailey and Benjamin Creme teachings. In his Research Report #2, he tells of something he was led to by a spirit guide – what he terms ‘Neo-Pentecostalism.’ An aberrant branch of Pentecostalism, this is more commonly known as the ‘Manifest Sons of God.’ That movement is also referred to as ‘Sonship’ or ‘Overcomers.’ Ramsey concludes based on even less evidence than I have personally collected that this is part of the New Age Movement.

“Ramsey’s work for his organization, ‘Synthesis Fellowship,’ first came to my attention in early 1983. His major report, entitled “An Evolutionary Basis For The Reappearance of the Christ and his Executives, the Masters of Wisdom” was inspired by Benjamin Creme’s appearance and speech at Unity on the Plaza in Kansas City, Missouri. . . . The most interesting section of Ramsey’s report dealt with ‘Neopentecostalism.’ Ramsey spent a semester at one of the Neo-Pentecostal or Manifest Sons of God seminaries . . . . Already familiar with the Alice Bailey writings, he was amazed to see that there was a branch of Pentecostalism that embraced the same teachings – albeit using sometimes different terminology.

“Like those seeking the ‘Age of Aquarius’ these people too were seeking a ‘New Age.’ Like the other New Agers, these people taught that ‘The Christ’ was an anointing – not necessarily one man. They taught that Jesus was a pattern son who was to be a sign of something even greater to come – the ‘Manifestation of the Sons of God.’

They too believed the earth was to be cleansed of evil. And chillingly like the other New Agers, they believed they were to be ‘God’s instruments to do such cleansing. The New Agers believed they were gods. The Manifest Sons of God likewise taught that if one accepted their ‘new revelation’ that they themselves would actually become Christ at the time of the unveiling or manifestation of the Sons of God.”(10)

Although these similarities are frightening in themselves, Cumbey continues her eye-opener with this revelation:

“Ernest Ramsey excitedly pointed out in his report that [the Manifest Sons] had a teaching which indeed did parallel the Aquarian teaching of the Age of Aquarius – the Old Testament ‘Year of Jubilee’ as well as the ‘Feast of Tabernacles.’ The Year of Jubilee paralleled the redistribution of the world’s wealth. The Feast of Tabernacles was the equivalent of the coming together of the World’s peoples and varied religions under one tent or tabernacle – the equivalent of the New Agers’ long-awaited ‘New World Religion.’ . . . .”(11) [Source]

The Original Interview Audio

For this post, I have shortened an hour-long long rambling interview to the relevant material of just over 20 minutes. If you want to listen to the original, however, you can do so here:

UnSpun 198 – Constance Cumbey: “The Cult of QAnon”

7 thoughts on “Old Heresies Repurposed for Today’s Delusion

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  2. For some clarification, Constance herself posted a comment on her blog relating to all this. Essentially, she and I are in agreement with regard to Trump’s involvement/knowledge:

    For the record:

    I did not say that Qanon was Trump’s Qanon Movement. I did rightfully say that the Qanon participants currently posit Trump as their leader. The MSOG have ascribed such roles to others in the past. Trump is the current poster boy. I am disturbed that Trump praised a QANON candidate from Georgia (Greene). I do not know what Trump’s level of sophistication on Qanon might be. I suspect it is shallow.



  3. Discovered Constance Cumby in the 1980s, so blessed she is still discerning the truth especially during the time at hand. I was questioning all of the present day politics and sensing the evils, She confirmed my conclusions. I thank GOD for her and her work.

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  4. How interesting. Years ago I went to a meeting where Bill Britton taught. Really couldn’t tell anything amiss from that one message. We already knew he was off and were checking him out. Afterwards at a restaurant my wife and I were disturbed that the pastor who invited us to go to check was like, “ well he believes in Jesus etc.”

    Also I met Carol Balezet (sp?) in a home birth seminar she gave. Was glad she was presented with the truth. She was a nice and humble person. I saw an interesting article somewhere (Readers Digest or Guideposts?) about her running off the road in Central Florida and being trapped in water upside down and being rescued in the nick of time.

    Helpful article. This Q stuff is so difficult to grasp.


  5. Thank you so much for the link to the audio. Quite honestly, I knew the fallen ‘believers’ would come after us but this is so fast again. I’ve shared it widely as usual. We see it all happening.


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